OHNHR Podcast 23 - Mark Jordan

Content warning: several mentions of animal slavery and talk of suicide.

This podcast was first released in July 2012. It features Mark Jordan who was then involved in an organisation called "Respecting Animals" (which does not seem to be operational now).

It's a wide-ranging discussion and should be very useful for grassroots activists who talk to the public.

Issues covered include:-
Why Mark went vegan - his own story is similar to that of vegan social movement co-founder, Donald Watson.
Language use in advocacy - Mark and I are big fans of Joan Dunayer's language work.
Should we say "fishes" rather than "fish." "Flesh" rather than "meat."
"Cow Flesh" rather than "beef."
"Pig Flesh" rather than "pork."
Alliance politics - an early exploration of intersectionality.
The "gentle approach" rather than being "open and honest."
Campaigns that seem to be aimed at making people more comfortable with their animal use.
Mark says that groups that are frightened of the word "vegan," are thinking about their donations over honesty.
Mark is opposed to watering down the message.
1980s, when the vegans didn't talk about veganism.
Mark talks about "mushy veganism" in terms of vegan generations.

This was the original blurb...

Welcome along to On Human-Nonhuman Relations Podcast, number 23, in which I am in conversation with anti-speciesist grassroots activist, and co-founder of Respecting Animals, Mark Jordan. 

Topics covered: Why did Mark go vegan - Joan Dunayer's controversial ideas - the prospects for alliance politics - vegan outreach and the palm oil issue - single-issues events or campaigns - and what about the national animal advocacy groups?



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